The Psychosemantic Podcast

It's 7 o'clock. Do you know where your freedom is? Coming to you live and electrified from Studio A, high atop the escarpments of Whitetail Peak. So, what's on your mind tonight? I mean, you know I'm going to tell you what's on mine. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. You done got me talking politics. I didn't want to. is that dog objecting to be starting the recording well it's too late welcome to another episode of the psychosemantic podcast welcome once again to the wonderful heather powell from uh the friday nightmares podcast and um slumber party masker still going on yeah i'm a little behind a little behind that's still going on we're still recording that once a month and yeah it's nice to be back again darren we do talk off air of course darren it always keeps scotty and i abreast on all the political things that are going on and i just look down from my high chair in canada and go well it's bad here but at least we don't have that so at least we have universal health care yes our conservatives believe in science or at least pretend to at least they pretend to enough in public that you know it gets uh actually we just got encouraged today to go back to wearing masks not it's not mandated again we kept our mask mandate longer than you guys did. I think we kept it the longest. Because even when I was traveling to England and I came back in May, I had to have my vaccine stuff. I had to be masked in the airport. England, they didn't care. Ireland, they didn't care. But back in Canada, they cared. So it was only in October that that was lifted. So we're back to suggesting masks, and that is a conservative government. So I guess that says something, that they do think masks have some value and not spreading germs this time of year is that why doctors have been wearing them forever i know this shocks you that when you go into the hospital darren in health care settings professionals wear them i know you probably just thought they were like a accessory but they actually have a purpose i know i i need i have to go apologize to a bunch of doctors that i yelled at because i thought they were just virtue signaling so yeah we have we have chatted but we haven't chatted, I guess, formally one could say on a podcast in a long time. But I think the last time I feel like the last time we chatted on a podcast was on yours. Yes. When we did Society and a few other films. I think we did Assassination as well. Assassination Nation. We did that one. Assassination Nation. Yes. That was a dark one. That was a hard one for me to get through. I remember being really challenged getting through that film just because of the content in it society was just more of a really good really good 80s 80s film that kind of just plays on elitism it's great yeah highly recommend to anybody still not covered on this show but oh really you should get to that you know i think it's been going long enough i i've i probably waited too long for some stuff but I mean it's never too late if you eventually get around to it I definitely was holding off on doing some of the big hitters until I at least got better at pretending to know what I'm doing on here or at least steering the ship instead of being like Chris Farley's character I was like you remember that time? That was really cool That sounds like every time I talk to you Darren you're like and blah blah blah constitution and i'm like oh man i'm canadian i don't know what the fuck you're talking about but i'm gonna pretend like i do and be like yeah darren that sounds bad bad darren oh yeah darren that means i'm angry too automatically it's probably one of the old like of the quote unquote modern governments it's probably the one based off the oldest least adjusted for modern time documents. I feel like every other country has worked to stay with the times. And that's not what the people in 1787 would have wanted. Well, you know, you still got politicians that think that people are upset over civil wars and the loss of civil wars and going back to that, which is concerning to say the minimum. But I guess that's just me being super woke now, isn't it, yes that is very woke of you and thank you for segueing us into the topic i think possibly the last time you were on here it was another sort of discussion like this but it might have been a group discussion and that one was about what was the actual kickoff point of that episode i think it was the election yeah that works response of i think of of the or not the election the response of a specific group to the election results. There was that. But we are here to talk in our psychosemantic fashion about woke, wokeness, wokeism, what, as Ben Shapiro would say, the authoritarian left. Which even when you say authoritarian left, it's just like, you know, it's like, I won't go into this tangent too much, but what really fired me up about this is so we have school board trustee elections here. I'm sure you guys have something similar. And there was a woman who was running in my riding. And she dropped off a pamphlet. Her pamphlet was Stop Woke. And already I was mad. And I was upset that I just took the pamphlet and didn't fight with her, right? So anyway, she leaves it. so i go to her facebook group and it's like i don't want wokeness in the classroom which school trustees here by the way don't have any control over curriculum they're just there to advocate for like lunches and shit and like you know better supplies for the gym class like they're not there for a curriculum they don't get a say in curriculum so i don't know what this woman thought she was going to do but anyway um she wanted to get rid of critical race theory and then she accused our school systems of becoming marxist and i am so tired darren of people using marxist to just clarify something they don't like like authoritarian left and marxism i feel like none of them ever took a sociology class in marxism and they have absolutely zero idea what the theory is like it just it drives me bonkers i just feel like sometimes i just throw words out to make it sound scary yeah you know you know what i'm saying well anyway yes i know exactly what you're saying right because there are whether you will see protesters with signs that say things like keep your socialist hands off my medicare which if you don't know what medicare is but you're laughing so you have a good idea but anyone else out there it is our government run health care system that they give to the elderly yeah so that combined anyway she lost by the way i another um another gentleman um decided to run against her a 24 year old young man who had actually background in education and he chose to run because of her campaign and he was elected and i don't usually get politician signs on my lawn and I had the biggest sign he would put on my lawn was on my lawn because I just could not tolerate like at the end of the day if that is that woman's views that like I can't change her opinion that's not going to happen but to put out pamphlets to be like it's woke because it's critical race theory and it's Marxism I'm like I can't even understand your argument is so ridiculous none of those things make any sense so I don't want you anywhere near school so you can't win speaking gibberish lady like it doesn't even flow so you know if you truly believe that we live in a marxist state and that critical race theory is somehow disrupting your very uh white cis life that you're living that's fine that can be your own personal views but i don't want you in a decision-making power of any shape or form so yeah right it's uh yeah that is also a lot of politicians who have nothing to do with curriculum and people that run for school board will often bring up critical race theory it's like it's not critical race theory but current events like in current the way our world is structured unless of course you have something to lose by people questioning the structure which is usually usually the case for in my preparation for our discussion i ended up watching uh ben shapiro's commencement speech to prager u students which i don't know if you know what PragerU is. No, I have no idea. It's like a right-wing Dennis Prager runs it, but it's like, the woke left is trying to indoctrinate your student, your children, and trying to push this Marxist, communist, socialist, anarchist, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. So come to us for the real information. They present themselves as set like you know rational but uh his video was like congratulations on your on moving from the authoritarian left ivory tower of the of the or the ivory tower of the authoritarian left that is college and moving on to the glass and steel tower of the authoritarian left and talk about how corporate america is left is run by leftists i'm looking at the website now and i can see that they have uh my favorite is they have tba to be honest history and they have a gentleman that's african-american in like a christopher columbus outfit i feel like that's probably not to be a to totally be honest history um i feel like we're missing some stuff there so yeah um you know it's interesting that uh and what's kevin's what's that guy that played hercules oh kevin sorbo yeah he's he's he's here um him and james woods and tim allen and randy quaid hey you know you know it's it's not shocking and then they have one lady who is african-american or black that's that has a little podcast and then another white lady and then some old white guy. So, you know, they have lots of options. Yeah, they're very diverse. They're very woke. I think this is pretty woke, Darren. I'm just saying. It is too woke. They've come for us. They have. So that's interesting. So how was that? I find that that must have been an interesting speech. It was interesting. I learned that most people in society either don't care about politics or are conservatives. And the laws and rules of society are really like when there's a family, a man and a woman, of course, with multiple children. and one child is a vegetarian, everybody having to eat vegetarian. That is what society is like because it's the small percentage of people forcing everyone to believe their beliefs. And that corporations waste millions of dollars on diversity and they want people to feel bad about being white and become less white. and what else what else did he say it's true they definitely want people to shop less at target and eat less applebee's oh and what's the other one where they all go after it's always a thing um that's always made fun of i'm going to go to church and then i'm going to go yell at some server and it's a specific restaurant chain what is it golden corral not golden corral is a place yeah okay or cracker barrel maybe cracker barrel there it is there it is cracker barrel good old cracker barrel yep the cracker barrel which i've never been to that's because you've been absorbed by the diversity culture and you haven't been able to practice your true heritage i'm eating gravy and potatoes i bet you like sushi too darren oh no no i actually don't whenever we get sushi I'm still an eight-year-old and I get the chicken fried rice oh well oh well there you go good stay close to your heritage there it's got meat it's got meat in it not fish fuck that well it's an interesting and you know I I I think what people forget with with extremism that yes of course you can find extreme people on any different sides but I find and well and I know you have the history of woke coming so I'll definitely let you you know take that over there I just for me I am so tired of people using it as a term if they don't like something they don't enjoy a movie it was too woke for me instead of saying like you know I didn't really like the plot the message I didn't agree with or I'm tired of hearing that message and I don't want to hear it anymore that I can even appreciate over well it's just too woke because then I feel you're just being lazy now and you can't be bothered to describe what's actually wrong because woke isn't actually a bad thing in my humble opinion of course but the people who are saying that see it as a bad thing And that's why it's a pejorative. It's like social justice warrior. It's to an extent, I feel like it's the people that always complained about PC. have evolved or at least seen PC or woke as evolvement from PC. And I can see them definitely be related because, I mean, I think it's hard when it's a word because language is so flexible that everybody adds their meanings and their definitions to things. So, I mean, there are woke or whatever people who don't necessarily like the phrase woke because of the negative connotations that have been added to it but i i mean woke pc whatever practiced rationally is really just treating people with respect i find it the biggest compliment when someone says I'm woke I say thank you and sometimes they may not mean it as such but I'm like you mean I understand there's inequalities in this world and use my power and privilege as a white heterosexual woman to make sure other people have resources to help them be successful I don't see how that's an insult I'm not quite getting how that is a problem but you know You need to lose your empathy and get some apathy. That must be the case. And, you know, I think the thing that drives me the most bananas before I keep cutting you off from doing a definition is that, you know, a better life for others is a better life for all of us economically. Like, I'm not just even talking from the social stance. So I don't have children. Darren knows this. But I am a huge advocate of public schools here in Ontario. I live in Canada, for anyone who's not aware. I live in the province of Ontario. And I have a semi-detached, so I pay a fair amount in property taxes. My property taxes go to schools. And when the school trustee came around that I voted for, I said, I would increase my property taxes in a heartbeat if you told me that there was going to be lunch programs in every school, tutoring for every kid. because I understand that an educated society, a well-fed society, a society that is getting the nutrients that it needs will grow up to be successful. They'll be able to be more likely to get better jobs, better skill sets, and continue to run the economy as I get older and can no longer run the economy because we live in a capitalist society. It's not going to change anytime soon. So we're going to have to work within the system. We have less people in healthcare that need healthcare issues if they have a healthier lifestyle. Like A, B, C, D, F, G, it's not just, oh, well, I don't want to spend more because I don't have kids. Like, what a dumb view. It is such an uneducated view of looking at the whole global market, but I find that people don't want to take that step and think that far. So we throw in woke and we throw in other things to kind of shelter us from being challenged to think what would the benefits of this actually be if we had less inequalities and more resources for other people. Or people, I should say. Yeah, I couldn't agree more. I remember it was an easy thing to do, especially because I didn't own property and a lot of city levies and tax levies and things like that here in the States are based off property taxes. But I was still paying it to my landlords. But I voted for all the school shit. never i mean i didn't think i was going to have a kid until about a year and a half before i had a kid had a kid it was not really anything that i aspired to do and then it became a thing that we decided to do but i always saw the value and the need, especially here in the States, for more funding for schools. Because you get them. Yeah. Smarter people make the world better. And like food on the table. And I live in a pretty affluent community, but there is a lot of poverty everywhere. And when they put public transit in my community, I was all up for it. And there were pushbacks. I'm like, just because you don't need to take the bus doesn't mean someone else doesn't need to. And I find, and you're not getting that if they can take the bus, then they can get to resources. They can get to work. They're able to get their kids to school easier. They're able to have autonomy and freedom. Like, there's just such a disconnect, Darren. And then I find those same people will watch a Jordan Peele film about Get Out or Us or, I don't know, name one. Because it's an easy little hanging fruit because most people have seen them. And they go, well, it's woke. because they're missing the message of the film they're missing that there is issues and there are things that are affecting all of us economically and there's a lot of rich old white guys running both of our fucking countries and like it's it's like no no no no no no and it's just and it's very very frustrating that you just throw the term on woke just to just to kind of satisfy the fact that you don't want to critically think about could things be done better it uh it shakes my comfort so it must be bad because i don't care because i don't care so if i don't care about something it's not a problem right right right or we don't and it's not like it's going to be fixed overnight but like i don't know your country getting fucking universal health care would be a great fucking start i don't know like you know it's a concept that you know when i explained to americans we talked about this before it's beating a dead horse you're paying into premiums you'd be paying that into taxes for the health care like i'm not quite fucking getting what the problem what the disconnect is here right you're still paying for it you know you're still paying into a benefit plan that you have to get health care from but there's been this convinced by a lot of old white guys in power that you need to do this because they're the ones that are getting rich off of it and they control a lot of the message so i feel like even the term woke from them is used as like um a label that people like pc you're right like i can hold on to this woke thing and that's the problem instead of me i don't know it's the whole american dream concept too like if you work hard enough and best enough and fast enough and you'll get here and it's and it's like that whole illusion i don't know it's like a david copperfield magic show that's just constantly going on for us all the time in north america it's the carrot dangled like one day you'll get to be the boot right one day but until then it's woke and you don't like it it is woke pay no attention to the fact that every single member of congress has government funded universal health care for life. They get automatic, they get retirement. Like everyone in Congress is a socialist Marxist communist that they complain about, or at least more like it than the people that they are trying to warn people against. and you brought up Get Out with Woke and that also has the extra thing about him trying to maintain consciousness and not go to sleep not go to the dark place and he did that on purpose because i i mean the i found i didn't read all of it but i found a bit of a summary of a linguistics phd student was looking into woke a couple years ago for her paper. And in like the 1920s in America was one of the first times it was used in the sort of way that is talked about right now. And it sort of jumps. I mean, there there's references to those, but, you know, stay. It was rooted in the African-American community and it was, you know, stay awake, stay alert be aware of the injustices and the prejudices around you and uh you know musicians use reference the word and you know lead belly had a song with uh lyrics about it and sort of throughout the political movements like many things it eventually gets stolen by white conservatives and kind of ruined. It really kind of entered the mainstream in the way that we're talking about it in around, was it 2014? When Michael Brown was killed in Ferguson, Missouri, by Officer Darren Wilson. and the Black Lives Matter movement and old comfortable racists really didn't like the new civil rights movement sort of getting started. So it's woke. It's bad. It's woke. And, of course, some people, like, one person I can think of is Nancy Pelosi. She is a Democrat, but she's an out-of-touch liberal doing stuff like kneeling with an African sash or, you know, she had Lin-Manuel Miranda read a poem on the anniversary of the attempted coup that we had here. Just sort of performative liberalism in its most sort of corny. So I could see that the more traditional leftists think of that or that sort of bring up those sort of thoughts when the word gets brought up, especially like you talk about like we don't you and I don't really seem to we're not bothered when people call us woke, but we don't go around calling ourselves woke. No, no. You know, that's the sort of difference that the left sees in the term. But it was very much like, yeah, it was just an evolving slang that was left alone for so long. And then it became the boogeyman or bogeyman, depending on what country you're in, for the conservative right. And it's sort of, it's like a slur they can say on the news. you know we've the woke the woke scolds of the world have taken away all their fun slurs so woke has that bitterness and that bile and all the other words that some people want to say and I some people say it just toss off like we've got friends that we consider good people but they would say that sort of shit you know right but there are the more extreme the Ben shapiro's out there drying vaginas everywhere they go and um and things like that but yeah it really was a very i think it made sense like you know it's like keep your head on a swivel but it's yeah i don't know and that community had to because they were oppressed the moment And they stepped foot on this property and this land. We oppressed the people that were here before, we being white people. And, like, you can fucking call that woke all you want. It's the fucking truth. So you don't have to like it, but that's how it went down. so yes if i was a member of a group of individuals or identified as a group of individuals that had been told to work in fields my rights taken away beaten if i had to do things told i couldn't drink at water fountains had to fight for the right to go to school and can't walk down the street without being afraid of being carded yeah i probably keep my wits about me too because it's a different world for that individual than it is for me as a white heterosexual woman now i have other challenges or barriers quote unquote but on the pecking order i'm doing pretty good in society i am just below the white man and i think that that is just i think you're so right Darren on the money that conservatives hold on to it but I think people do as well as something to if anything is presented to me and makes me feel bad for finding something funny like I can't tell you how many times I've heard well I guess I can't make that joke anymore or this TV show would never get made today because our society is so welcome. I'm like, great news. That's still available on DVD or Blu-ray and YouTube. No one is preventing you from watching it, actually. No one said you can't watch All in the Family ever again. No one's actually ever said that to you. They've just said that there's social constructs there that don't make sense in 2022, and nor should they. like yes i have watched older pieces of film that use real offensive language and do really shitty things that aren't that long ago aka american pie like let's talk about the sexual harassment and shit in that film and the homophobia and all the other stuff but can i look at it and go well that was 2000 it was a different time doesn't make it okay but i understand that it's snapshotting that in 2000 sure do i find the same things funny now i personally don't but while i watch eddie murphy's delirious or raw and laugh at some of the stuff he says yes i still do and i own that i i do i do that doesn't mean that there's not problems with some of the stuff he says absolutely but like i feel like people just for woke if they're like well someone's basically told me i can't like this anymore so it's woke they're being woke instead of like acknowledging that yes maybe things have changed and that's not appropriate now but that doesn't mean that you still can't go get access to it like what are those books that were banned what was it the who like what certain books weren't going to be printed in dr seuss dr seuss i like to play the fun game when that happened darren of getting people to name me the books that were banned or not being printed sorry They weren't even banned. They just weren't being printed anymore. It's like, we're not going to make these anymore. Right. So I would say, name it. And I would wait. You know, not one person could name one. I had to Google that shit because I didn't know what they were either. Well, but it's very upsetting. And one of the lyrics, one of the books was like, China man eats rice. No. Guess what? That shouldn't be something that we're reading to kids in 2022. Yeah. Don't worry. You can still hop on pop and talk about the Lorax and the trees. No one's done shit about that, so don't worry. We still have environmental problems. No one got the point of that book. So I don't understand where people get to this, like, it's Woke Then It's Band when it's just like, well, no, it's just they're not recreating that material anymore. You can still access it if you want to. What was – yeah, that movie could never be made anymore. Oh, Mel Brooks could never do stuff like that. And a lot of the times is it really wasn't okay when it happened and people were bothered by it when it happened. That's a very good point. People just didn't have to give a shit. But the people didn't have the voice who were upset by it and it was okay to make fun of marginalized people. Right. And you feel guilty because you find it funny because you're not that marginalized person. Right. And I, yes, I find the, and that's where I get, yes, I don't like right-wing politics using it, but I get that that's just a scare tactic. I get more frustrated when I'm talking to a fellow podcaster and they tell me a movie wasn't good and their reasoning goes, oh, it was woke. I kind of like, I just, my head can't take it. I just find it such a low-hanging, ridiculous reason to say you didn't like a film. And just a complete misuse of the term. and it i don't know that's where it really gets me it really does because now you're using a term and it's usually a movie that has something to say like the top three here oh yes darren the top three horror woke films of all jordan yes three out of the five are jordan peel films of course get out us nope the fourth is antebellum and the fifth is candy man 2021 i don't know why they don't have 1990 in there because 1990 was also about racial issues and political injustice but i guess we've decided that i don't know that that doesn't upset people as much but it is crazy to me that the five films we see here all are starring directed by people who are black i mean it's just unacceptable and even jordan peele makes it on the top seven with lovecraft country you mean the clan members and lovecraft country being villains is woke god that's right damn it that's right police harassing black people in sundown towns that didn't happen so it's just woke oh wait it did happen right i just find that it's interesting that the top five horror films that now here are the top the top 10 woke movies that ruined franchises okay this article so the first one is terminator dark fate 2019 i have not seen that one i neither have i i stopped at stopped after terminator 3 um it just says that the decision to cut off john connor in the first five minutes and replace him was the biggest problem and the radical eye-rolling feminism was everywhere oh okay a girl a girl main character that i bet doesn't even pass the bechdel test but who knows um did you know the bechdel test i'm i'm a little unfamiliar with it So if I'm talking about it, Alison Bechdel, writer, comic book writer, had like a scale of way to judge a movie or a piece of art. If it passes the Bechdel test to women or two female characters have to have a conversation. I forget how long and not it be about a man to pass. And you'd be surprised how few do. I mean, there's lots that don't. I would not be surprised. But if you go through, there was a podcast that I listened to for a while called The Bechdel Test. And the two women that did it would find a movie and they would say if the characters passed and didn't. And there's a lot of classics that are like, nope. two female characters did not have a conversation not about another male character for any distinguishable length of time. Well, it's interesting you should talk about females because the next one is, of course, the infamous Ghostbusters 2016. Oh, they replaced all the penises with boobs, and I don't like it. Now, I never saw this movie either. I'm not the biggest Ghostbusters fan. I liked the most recent one. It was fine. I never saw this one, not because of any other reason than I just didn't. But the argument is that it was the swapping of the genders was just the biggest mistake. And Leslie Jones apparently unacceptable attacked on fans. I don't know. what her attack was. Maybe she told people that they didn't have to like the film and that made them upset because, I don't know, fans get really upset about stupid shit. You didn't make it the way I wanted it. It sucks. You know there's a petition out there to remake Halloween ends? I heard that, and I didn't believe it for a second in that I remembered I live in this world. All right. so the second the third movie wonder woman 1984 really yeah oh because there are two female lead characters see my issue with wonder woman 1984 is um the sort of and and it's i feel like i was kind of looking for it and i was adding real world stuff was Gal Gadot is kind of pro-Israel, anti-Palestine. And it can come out a bit in her work. And I think Palestine needs to get out of the apartheid state that they are living under the Israeli government, which is not all Jewish people. It is the Israeli government. yes a very different i'm glad you made that very clear statement um i never saw the movie yet again i'm not a big marble or dc or whatever this is fan the next one surprised me though because i saw um i think the first two but i didn't see the final one star wars episode 8 the last jetai oh it's a it's a girl and leia has the force too and it's girls beat up boys and um i mean all the star wars movies are kind of political because it's hinged on a fascist overlord and a rebellion against it yeah like weren't they all that and like women were empowered in like a lot of them princess leia you know in the 70s and 80s she did like fuck shit up like she wasn't just like oh i'm a damsel like she handled her shit where she needed to and i really liked rogue one i thought like that's the last one i saw i thought she was the main i think rue i can't remember her name was but she was very ray i was like what's like that was a person of color and a female in the main role when have everyone been mad about that like i don't understand that's because i haven't seen it maybe well people were people were mad that when they thought that finn uh i think his name is john boyega who uh was in attack the block if Have you seen Attack the Block? No. No, I got to watch it, though. Okay. That was, I think, one of his first movies. But, I mean, yeah, there were people that thought it was woke when they thought it was going to be a black Jedi. Even though in the, what, the early thousands, we had Samuel L. Jackson on the Jedi Council. Well, and we had Star Trek. This is Aliens, just so we're clear. I know Star Trek and Star Wars are different, but it's all based on aliens. Are we going to think a whole bunch of white people are just floating around space? Yeah. Of course. Right? Right? Obviously. Right? Wouldn't that be the one place where you'd be okay with, like, anything and everything? Because that's the fantasy of science fiction, or maybe the reality, who knows, of, like, different life forms. So I don't think a black Jedi is really reaching here. I think that just kind of goes with the territory of who would be there. Like, I don't understand. All people of different races exist in society. I'm sure they would exist in society too. It's just forced to appease the authoritarian left. That's right. That's the case. Just like when they make movies nowadays based off comic book characters with longstanding stories, but those were in things you had to read. So I don't know if it actually exists. And since it's happening now, it is just pandering and virtue signaling. And it's not something that's been established for 10, 20, 50, 100 years. Right. I just, yet again, slapping woke on things that you just didn't like that much. Just say the movie wasn't for me. I didn't like the characters. I didn't buy into the story. Not, it was woke so I didn't like it. It's just such a copy. Anyway, next one. Charlie's Angels 2019. I don't know which one it was. I saw the first one whenever the first movie was... I'm interested. Did they say why? Let's see here. So Elizabeth Banks was a relatively likable actress, but she since degraded herself into a toxic, unpalatable personality. It's no surprise that her directorial duties on the 2019 Charlie's reboot ended in complete disaster. You're hard to press to find one person within 10 block neighborhood that remembers it. Well, that's fair. we both said we didn't remember it um how does that make it woke i don't know but it says that it's it just means it's not a good film so this the next one on here is most recent probably more popular film no time to die the most recent james bond oh um and this one is considered woke because is less woke than audience first thought but that doesn't mean wokeness didn't have a part in his downfall as any 007 film delays for so many years was bound to test fans patience because gets their children and live for a film anyway but the cast and crew decided to pick up an open wound with a divisive hardly charged rhetoric uh they're going to neuter bond for the sake of his fractional woke minority and it didn't play well bond's womanizing bad boy behavior is tied. So it's a shame he was no longer manipulating women. I can't like the Bond movies because he didn't manipulate women. He stopped slapping women. It's bullshit. Good news, everyone. You can still go back and watch Thunderball. Guess what? I need my James Bond to abuse women. I don't even know how many different people have played James Bond. nobody's had a problem with being different person all the time because it's a code name that could be given to any spy and i think it could be done by a woman i was very excited when i thought it was going to be idris elba oh i know right i know but people are just more upset that he can't sexually harass women anymore look all right aaron what is the point of being james bond unless you're trying to get an std right and there's no better way to blend in in modern times than be a total asshole and smack women around right you know what that's what this is about and uh anyway so people have decided that that makes it woke um and then the next one is men in black international 2019 um i guess that's because it was a namely the men are all morons and the women succeed simply because they're breathing i don't isn't that how the world works but this is the one that surprises me darren okay and i actually really love this film being a child from the you know era of video games and arcade mortal combat 2020 how on earth was that movie woke i don't quite get that like i'm sure i i there was cole a character written specifically for the movie. Yeah, that's true. Unlike other characters in movies. Right? And, you know, and the reasoning behind the decision was to find an excuse to knock fan-favorite Johnny Cage out of the film because he was white? Oh! What? What? You have two people that, Sub-Zero and Scorpion, that magical powers in this film. You have Sonya, who didn't do much, honestly, throughout the entire thing. And it was based off a video game. Yeah. And Johnny Cage was in a Mortal Kombat movie already. And I bet he was most people's least favorite character, except for the people who grew up to complain about wokeness. i think the two favorite the most favorite characters would not even be the white characters in mortal kombat i know when i play mortal kombat i always want to play sub-zero or scorpion first off i could have just seen a scorpion sub-zero movie and would have been happy with it because they're to me like no one's like johnny cage everyone's like finish him like how often do you hear that quote i don't get over here yeah like and then there's jet lee is it done jit lee Liu Kang Liu Kang yep Right Like I would argue that Johnny Cage is not a fan favorite It just a character that was in there I don know I am never... And out of the film because he was white. Not getting that one. Not getting that one. Yeah, I don't think it was... Was he ever supposed to be in the film? But, like, characters have to die in Mortal Kombat. Yeah. Like, if you played General Pumpto and you were playing Johnny Cage and you got killed, you'd be like, man, you guys just beat me because Johnny Cage is white. I just want to do the splits nut punch over and over and over again. I don't get, though. Anyway, obviously this person did not like Mortal Kombat. So the next one is Birds of Prey 2020. oh was that the um harley quinn spinoff yes okay yes because it's a movie about female characters for the most part just like people are flipping out about she hulk these days but i clearly remember she hulk existing when i was a little kid because I thought She-Hulk was hot. Yeah, and the last movie here is Captain Marvel, which I guess had a female... And I'm reading the arguments, and the arguments are things like, well, as we said, it's stuff like because Johnny Cage dies because he's white. I'm not quite getting... So I feel like this article is trying to communicate that maybe some of these you know and obviously this is a person's opinion but i don't quite get that it's backed up with facts that's fine to have an opinion like i could argue with darren all night and say no darren the moon is made of cheese it is 100% made of cheese and one day we're going to have a cheese shower that's going to bless north america with all the mozzarella we can ever eat And Darren could say things like, well, Heather, that doesn't make sense because cheese is made on Earth and it's made from animals. But when the cow jumped over the moon. And I'm like, no, Darren, there's a cheese moon. Then, you know, I'm allowed to believe in said cheese moon. But when you present information as facts, but the facts don't back up your argument, that's where there's a problem with calling things woke. it's very lazy writing it is and like here's the thing if this person really thought captain marble like or thought you know mortal combat if they were like you know johnny i don't know they should have had they should not created a character they should have just kept to the original character sure fine that's a valid opinion you didn't think this guy needed to be created all right cool no problem got it you know maybe he was created because they're going to bring back mortal combat and it's a way to get people to buy the new games because they're going to throw coal in there and people are like oh well this one has coal i better buy it right like money making but to be like it's because my white guy got knocked out and killed because he's white just seems a little bit of a stretch to me that seems like my cheese argument about the moon it doesn't hold a lot of weight besides me thinking that it is that way you know what i mean like i get it if all female cast of ghostbusters wasn't for you no problem best thing about a movie that's not for you you don't have to watch it again but you don't have to go out of your way and be completely offended over a female cast of ghostbusters like are you that fragile you can't handle it you know what i mean they're they're changing they're changing it just because to be woke it's not like in the first fucking Ghostbusters movie, they hired an extra person that wasn't part of the original Ghostbusters. Oh, that's right. So in the world of Ghostbusting, other people can do it. That is set up in the movie that makes the EPA the villain. Yeah, that's right. Right, right. So yeah, I feel like your definition of woke that you used makes a lot of sense. And then people, if there's anything that I wish at the end of this podcast is if you don't like something. And perhaps it's a movie because it has a gay sex, gay couple and gay sex in it, which I don't understand the term of gay sex because there's no such a sex is sex. Everyone can have anal sex. Everyone has the capability to have anal sex. Everyone has the capability to have oral sex. So if you happen to see two people that identify as male or female engaging in sexual actions and for some reason that upsets you, I fast forward the scene. Like, I can't get through Clockwork Orange because of the rape scene at the beginning. It bothers me. I can't get through it. It's really hard on me. Does that mean that I'm going to tell people they can't watch that movie? no I'm not that's up to everybody else to decide and if they don't mind that scene they can get through it but I'm not going to run around and say that that movie needs to be taken away because of that scene like there's has to be a a common sense point where you go we are living in a world now where we are celebrating and finally bringing to light that there's multiple sexual relationships, multiple genders. And again, you know, why people get upset about gender, I think, is beyond me. Like, how does it affect you what someone else identifies as? But anyway. And there's inequalities that exist in our society. And if you are that afraid that you're going to lose your position of power, I can assure you that unless you're a big CEO running Twitter right now or you're running other big corporations or at the top of the political tower, like your life isn't going to be that impacted that much. You've just been convinced it will be, right? So yeah, just think before you use the term. Just think. Is this term appropriate? Well, what you said very well could have been highly thought out with a lot of things, but you were woke so i stopped paying attention you're right darren making people what i'm just mad about ghostbusters and i'm mad about mortal combat now because i really am upset that johnny cage got killed because he's white i can't i can't move past that i just i'm actually when i get off this call right now i'm gonna go play mortal combat and make sure johnny cage wins every time just to redemption him from being killed in the Mortal Kombat 2020 film. And I'm going to edit out the part about you talking about the rape scene in Clockwork Orange. It might be uncomfortable for people because also making people aware that traumatic events in films exist, that's also woke. Sorry, you're right. Silly me. You can't tell people, hey, just a heads up. This might be hard for you to watch, so make a well-informed decision. That's woke. Got to get rid of it. You just got to go through your drama head first. Right? None of this other stuff. The last thing I want to mention about woke, and I don't know. Have you looked at the advertising for the right stuff conservative dating app? Oh, God. No. I can I have you been can you tell me about oh yeah I sure have so I I I didn't know this was really a thing until of course you know I I heard about like no this isn't a thing and I googled it and I was like and I guess I found out they're having a hard time um you know getting women on the app so i i watched their promotional video which is all women right and they uh right and um women of of color and women who i assume are white um and it's like what do you look for in a man things like you know i want him to know his place in the relationship strong you know other things and they're like what is the red flag definitely a liberal no sorry not liberal definitely a democrat for sure they all say democrat and i've watched it over and over again laughing because i thought it was the funniest shit like i thought it was like an snl satire right video but i'm like no this is actually for real so then i sent it to scotty like you gotta watch this it's the funniest shit i've ever seen and he's like yeah but heather that's legit i'm like like they're like a democrat definitely democrats of red flag no democrats no democrats and meanwhile if you've replaced something like that in Canada they'd be like definitely an NDP and people would be like what's an NDP and they would all be having to fucking Google it on their phones well shit what's an NDP and why don't I want one but I just thought it was the funniest video and I'm like if nothing could sum up like I don't know the anti-woke culture it's this right wing the right stuff dating app it's just not too much too much anyway i don't have any women on it for all these straight white dudes that can't find anybody else it's a bunch of incels yelling about where are all the women where my bitch is at why don't they want me i've seen a few uh maybe real maybe fake craigslist posts that i that are screenshot that I imagine is the basic thing about the right stuff. I kind of, believe it or not, I get a lot of targeted political advertisement, especially on Facebook and Twitter. And for some reason on Facebook, it is mostly right wing. So I'm all these, you know, I'm lions, not sheep, t-shirts and uh i there were they've been trying to get some sort of right-wing conservative dating thing i mean i it's it's sort of an easy shot but i think that religious people need to work harder at taking religion back from the the right-wingers because yeah the you know that's a whole other conversation but yeah yeah um since they can't pick up people at church they've got to find find another thing and i don't know if it was because i said fucking republicans too many times but for a while there i was getting all of these right-wing dating things i was like no no no no no i think i think i would no no and i am definitely one of those people that if I find you visibly gorgeous, just like, oh my God, but I cannot separate my body from my politics. No, I understand. I can't. I don't think I ever really wished I could. No. I don't want to. Yeah, but I just can't. I mean, and that's one of the things that Amanda loves, that we sink so much politically. partly because she doesn't have to do much research on election time because I start researching all the candidates two or three months out. And so I'm just like, okay, you would probably like this person because of what they said about this, this, and this, and all that other stuff. But also, yeah, I just, I couldn't be like what I'm trying to think of. I don't know if you know who James Carville is. I do. Okay. His wife is like the exact same thing as him, but for Republicans. What? And they're just like, we just don't talk about it. You know, it's like, oh, yeah. So I'm sure Candace Owens is probably attractive to a lot of people. But when she talks about the horrible things, it's just, but and yeah. So I don't know why I brought her up, probably because of the PragerU and Ben Shapiro. And, you know, she's definitely a figurehead of the conservative right wing, especially here in the States. Well, and it's a woman. And I feel like there's a lot of times where they'll put a woman of color, a woman that identifies as white or presents as white, presents as typically heterosexual. I have yet to see a lot of, you know, a transgender individual come out and say that they are part of a very strong right wing agenda. I'm sure it exists. I'm not as uneducated to say it's not, but I don't see that in the media as much. and there's probably a reason why we all know there's a reason why and I think it's I think you make a valid point Darren and I think for me if when I have someone that uses the term woke around me as a derogatory term it automatically drops them down in my book for when it comes to intelligence and I don't care how that sounds I find that you've gone to now the lowest denominator that you can't express your thoughts. So, for example, the movie Lucky that came out last year that was reflecting a woman that was attacked night after night after night and was trying to emphasize that this is a problem. You know, we have women that are being attacked. Women are attacked by men, and it's a problem. And you get people that are like, well, you know, not all men. And I understand that for you, you feel as though someone is saying to you, you're a bad person, and you're insecure about that. Something about that triggers you, which is being triggered, just so we're clear. So, you know, and you feel the need to push back. But can't we just admit that there's a problem when anyone sexually assaults another person and that we have a problem with men sexually assaulting women? And we don't have to say, of course, it's not all men or every single woman would be sexually assaulted in this fucking planet. So obviously it's not, but there is a problem. so for you to throw woke on lucky and say i don't want to deal with that if you say to me you know that's a message that's really hard for me to hear and i don't know how i feel about that i respect that a lot more than you telling me it's woke or i'm not ready to learn about that or it's made me look at things differently and i'm not ready for that but people don't want to say that because that also opens up vulnerability right so fucking frustrating that it i I half the time I'll dig in at first when I hear somebody say that. And if there's just a brick wall of no give when I was like, OK, well, then it's not worth it. That's right. We can agree to disagree about lots of things except for the validity of a human existing. Exactly. We can disagree about pizza toppings and we can disagree about whether Friends is a funny show or not. I'm not going to disagree that I think that making fun of somebody for wanting to be called a specific pronoun or a specific name, it would be like if you asked me to call you Darren and I refused to do that and I called you by another name and completely disregarded it. if you're willing to call someone by their nickname, their middle name, why should a pronoun affect who you are? Why do you have to know a gender of something to feel better? If you know your own gender and you're comfortable with that, awesome. If you're upset about someone else's, you probably have some self-exploration to do. Because there's probably nothing going on internally with you. Because most people don't get upset over things that don't affect their daily living life. Yeah, you think about how people that complain about these sorts of things, if they spend a lot of time complaining about Sting or Prince or Madonna or when people change their names when they get married or... Or anything. Anything like that. And you know what? These people have ruined... And I never really liked the gender reveal party. I hated gender I was an original hater of gender reveal I hated it for it was since its creation at first I thought I was like maybe call it the sex sex reveal but then that makes people think they're coming to a different kind of party yeah I'd be coming to that party I'd definitely show up to that but it seemed odd to me and I was like okay whatever but when you evaluate it and the just the ingrained And yeah, I mean, I think, I don't know, maybe I'm too woke. But sometimes giving a child a name before, you know, when they're little, it's presumptuous of us. But you know what? We've set things up. I mean, there was a guy who changed his name to Optimus Prime. And you know what people did? they said okay your name's Optimus Prime but I think your point there Darren is so accurate my dad goes by William Terrence Powell all the men in my dad's family are named William very very patriarchal shit but he goes by Terry and never in a million years would anyone be like no your first name is William and I shall call you as such and I will always stand behind and especially more now today more than ever if someone says oh it's so woke that they you know don't want to you know they want to raise their baby as non-gendered i'm like why why does that affect you are you upset that they're not wearing pink and being said she does that affect your what do you identify as well i'm a female male so does that affect your identity i'm just wondering does it because if it's making you question it then maybe we need to have a conversation. Maybe you're not comfortable with your identity because I'll tell you right now, I identify as female. I'm straight, heterosexual. I've said that several times in this podcast. And I do that all the time when I do my courses. I teach queer counseling because I want to be acknowledgement of my privilege and where I am and who I am. And I choose to do that. But if someone says to me that they're a different gender or whatever it may be, it doesn't make me question whether I'm a female or not. And if it did, I would want to explore that and have that conversation. It feels great. Glad we're finally at a time where not everything has to be male, female. Awesome. How does it affect your life to be accepting of someone else's way of doing things? And most people, when I do that, I have yet to anyone give me an answer that makes any more sense than what makes me uncomfortable. Like, because there is no other answer. There is none. Like, there is no other answer. like if you were raising I believe your son identifies as male for now seems so speaking of which you can have all the intent of raising away from the stereotypes of things we have never bought him a toy gun he has 20 toy guns he you know but a cool thing is he really likes pink he's got some pink shoes he doesn't give a shit he's like i've got some pink shoes but anyway sorry well and society like we still live in a society don't worry everybody everything's still real fucking gendered oriented so don't worry your kid's gonna go to school and be told by their peers what's male and what's female still don't worry we got lots of society pumping that shit out still but like it's it's it's still like what you know if your if your son was to you know if you were to come to me and said oh you know he's exploring his sexuality be like oh that's great you know that's so great that you and your wife can support him during that we'd be like well why why why is he plays hockey hockey's a man sport play it with a penis right only only penises definitely not women who have done way better in the olympics than our male teams definitely not women definitely not definitely not women Definitely not. Shout out to the Ohio State women's hockey team. And I follow Team Canada women's Sarah Nurse and a couple of those other people. Anyway, sorry. um no i follow and my last note i'll make on this is i practice what i preach my girlfriend um is pregnant and she's having a baby on her own she chose to do fertility treatments she chose to find the sex of the baby but i will always say when she says oh it's male i'll be like oh the sex the biological sex is male yeah because your child will be born into this world and you can put him in or well if you're going to refer to him as him in blue jumpers all you want and buy all the toy trucks in the entire world like i grew up loving wrestling horror movies sports and you know and i still associate as a very much a heterosexual woman that you know also wears pretty dresses quote unquote and does my makeup so like i you know it's a biological thing and and to be upset and offended is is more if you're more offended by that then you really need to evaluate what your own issues are and i encourage people to do that and i don't mean that in a condescending way i mean it in like are you okay way yeah right well you shouldn't be stressed out about this you use pronouns without even knowing right it's just anyway and so i wanted to bring up those top 10 woke movies that was a good discussion because i didn't quite get the argument for some of them um and i just kind of continuously people just use it as a label for things they don't like or don't understand or are intimidated by um it's woke i want to be asleep i guess is the opposite like i can't i hate i hate it because it's woke means i want to be unaware like you said yeah uncomfortable that's and of course i feel like no one wanted to be unaware of the mortal combat film so i feel like that woke term doesn't makes sense what are you really saying are you really saying that you feel as a white man that you been kicked out of the mortal combat game too early Like not about me. Like what is it about Johnny Cage's demise that pushed you over the edge from mortal combat 2020? I can't identify with the main character. It doesn't make me feel special. Sub-Zero just doesn't do it for me I can't handle it So Either Johnny Cage or Buzz Either Johnny Cage or Buzz I just can't get past that That's probably my favorite thing I learned this evening Is that people think Mortal Kombat 2020 is woke I I never would have thought of that You know I figured They them would be there Yeah nope i figured jordan peele of course because you know i figured that they didn't even put um what the black christmas remake oh that was number 12 oh i just go all the way down because then after that it gets into rape revenge films white women fighting back that they are that they're even more mad about but they're not as mad about that as they are about jordan peele and anything that has to do with blacks coming back and fighting back and talking about inequalities in our system that's the biggest woke horror too far too far too far you know the show is supposed to bring us closure darren all it did was teach us that people don't like ghostbusters still no time to die birds of prey and mortal combat 2020 oh man and yeah uh have you seen lovecraft country by the way no i haven't i should watch it though i'm a big jordan peele fan because i'm wrong and that one yeah i mean because that one's a bit more obvious. It's fucking really good. I think Amanda likes it more than the book, but it is based off of the book. Oh, cool. Cool. Yeah, it's really good. Well, your wife reads? She's so woke. She's so woke. She's probably with a book right now. Oh, my God. She's educating herself as a woman? You allow that? That doesn't sound like you have the right stuff, Darren. Very alpha male of you. Oh, no. i cooked her dinner before i came out here actually that is an alpha male did you ever see the meme that's like guys talk about being alpha males alpha males take care of their packs do you walk around with a fanny pack with snacks and like all this other stuff oh no the last the last alpha male thing i saw was some some guy that's always on twitter talking about how he's an alpha male and stuff and it's like oh only alpha males eat at hooters and some girl was like actually all you beta males who think your alphas come in and then we laugh at you later i saw that yeah alpha males eat at hooters nothing against hooters but i went there once i didn't like their food well you know and they're and they're very much like there's other restaurants up here we don't have who well we have a couple of hooters in canada not it's not a popular chain per se it tends to be in business capital cities and stuff like that right traveling people or you know for yeah right but we do have other restaurants that will you know sexualize their young female servers uh shock faint and you know some of them sexualize their young identified as male servers as well so you know it's not an uncommon factor but i know myself that generally speaking the food isn't the best at those restaurants because that's not what they're they're running their reputation on generally speaking of course like i'm sure there could be places that it's better uh but they tend not to be you know where you're gonna go for the best chicken wings around you can usually find better chicken wings somewhere else an alpha should know how to sniff out meat you know an alpha should know where the best chicken wings are are you really an alpha male if you can't find the best chicken wings I'm going to have to think about that while I'm folding laundry later today think about that while your wife reads and you she reads and I fold laundry oh my gosh Darren such a woke household I washed her delicates today laid everything down flat next you're going to tell me your kids books don't just have white people in them Are you going to tell me? Well, I guess I should use this moment non-sponsored. We do have a subscription. I think it's called Our Shelves. And there's a lot of cool kids books like Uncle Something's Wedding. I was dealing with an uncle marrying the new uncle. And there's What Are Your Words, which is all about pronouns. and uh a lot of other cool stuff you know about civil rights and wokeness um civil rights so and he's he does have some some dr seuss but none of the books that they just stopped making because nobody reads those anyway oh because china men eat rice isn't quality reading for an education for your son because you like fried rice he's going to be so questioned he's like but dad dr seuss says only one type of people can eat rice i was looking at his anti-japanese propaganda posters from world war ii why aren't all of my children books exactly like that you know it's interesting right i'm glad that i hear that there's open shelf like stuff like that it it provides it provides an opportunity for us to be no longer afraid of who we want to be can you I can't imagine living my life unable to express who I love, express who I am out of fear of ridicule. And I don't get how someone can seriously look another human being in the face and be like, no, no, you deserve that. You deserve that and it's inconvenient to me to care. And the apathy, right? I just saw a thing that was like the last level of white supremacy is apathy. Is, well, there's two sides to every story. I'm not into politics. And to me, it's a cop out. It's a cop out. That's you basically saying I'm really comfortable with my level of status and power. And I'm super afraid it's going to be taken away from me. even though I probably don't have that much status and power. I've just been convinced that I do because other people hold it over top of me. So I guess among the other ones, I'm the highest. And I just don't want other people, for some reason it's going to take, I don't know, take more of my pie and then I'm going to have less pie. It's just such a foreign concept for me. I can't wrap my head around it. can't be neutral on a moving train you know what that's a really good point to make actually very good metaphor who said it was a very smart person said that quick was it your wife because she reads all she probably read uh read a book by this person see that's the problem they start getting educated darren you know next she's gonna want to vote she's gonna want to have abortion rights like that's the problem in your country today is clearly people pushing back women expecting to be treated like people like they can decide what happens to their bodies pish posh applesauce can't be neutral on a moving train as a book by howard zinn okay i like it are you familiar with i am not familiar with howard swinton i'm not a smartest um i would maybe if you want to have like an audiobook that you just do a little you can it's in sections where you could just do a specific thing here and there but howard zinn was responsible for the people's history of the united states oh okay you've heard of that book yeah uh but that's where they go through like christopher columbus's diaries and do the horrible thing about saying what he actually said and uh but it's it's like yeah people's history of the united states and it goes off up to i forget the last time he updated it but he died in 2010 but he was a historian playwright uh socialist oh no you know you know i do feel like the united states is more scared of socialism than we are up here like i do feel there are people that are afraid of so we live in a fairly socialist state um at times and times but i i feel like it's a real scary thing for some folks it's pro i think part of it is left remnants from the anti-communism shit from yeah i guess so the cold war or whatever and and also just all the money that's behind the for-profit medical industry and all the other things is like socialism it's you know it's like people showing the effects of late stage capitalism and calling it socialism doesn't make it socialism but yeah they're always like look at these empty shelves this is what like no this is a very capitalist country like i don't get why they think empty anyway it just yeah economically it confuses me so much like i just you know yes but this has been a very great conversation, Darren. I always enjoy massaging out terms with you and looking at how people apply them and maybe hopefully challenging people to think if they are upset by something that they perceive as quote unquote woke, maybe do some internal thought as to why. Maybe talk to someone if you need to. We're not being condescending here. Literally, if you're struggling with your own identity or your own thoughts on something, that's okay. We don't all have the answers. I get corrected on stuff every day that I don't know and it's okay to be educated and it's okay to learn you're not going to know everything and maybe there's something about you that you've felt that you've had to keep oppressed and you don't like if it's if it's something about your gender or your identity identity just because something's bringing it out to you in a in a show or whatever maybe it's good for you to explore it but though or if not you just listen to what did you get this called once this podcast what was an echo chamber at oh yeah a radical leftist echo chamber and it i don't know if it was because of it but it was after an episode about richard nixon and watergate so i don't know what horrible leftist thing i said you know but you've been saying leftist things for years i think i have i am definitely my own echo chamber well and it's you know it's a view that you believe is right i also believe it's right and to be honest it's like if i wanted to go and listen to you know prague you stuff obviously if you're listening to that stuff you probably believe it's right unless you're daring and you're educating yourself but most people are going to just listen to the views that they think is right. And if you're listening to this, and for some reason, if you are some very anti-wocus, hopefully we've given you something to think about. If not, we hope we made you laugh and also question how Mortal Kombat 2020 is woke. We hope you too are sitting there going, but why? Get started on your petition campaign. Although, let's, I mean, we're wrapping up right here, but that brings up a very interesting anti-cancel culture debacle, which is let's boycott you for cancel culture purposes. Burn your Carhartt coats and smash your socialist coffee machines and all those other fun things. Bringing things back to, yeah. If you made it this far and you are the person that heather just described thank you that's over an hour at least um yeah i'm listening to us be like and and it's true i don't quite get yeah yeah we could talk about how like now people put canadian flags on the back of their vehicles as a sign of freedom and they still protest covid restrictions even though there are literally zero covid restrictions in this country anymore there are zero people are still protesting i don't quite get why they're protesting and then they're saying they're heroes for not getting the vaccine don't quite get how you're a hero for that uh heroes are people who worked frontline heroes are the people from our indigenous community that have suppressed years of trauma um not not you who didn't get a vaccine that that's your choice that's fine but you're not a hero so yeah we got that shit too and um they're up here my country but they're they're up here and there's like one truck that drives up to down my street it literally has like so many canadian flags on it that came this year and i wasn't sure who was like the crazy one that i needed to like avoid on the on the highway and who was just patriotic about our country and even then canada day hasn't had the same celebration i now donate on that day to indigenous communities and we spend time with my friend's kids talking about the real history of Canada um which isn't nice you know it's well it's nice for me who's white and you know got a lot of privilege and shit from stuff but it's not nice about what my ancestors did and to be honest with that right um so it's it's changed in the last couple years which is okay you grow and you change but yeah we've had we've had that kind of cancel culture but with like other stuff it's it's been an interesting slice we actually had a white supremacist run for mayor in the city i live in thank god he less he got less than two percent of the vote but darren he still got two percent of the vote you know what i mean you know what i mean yeah like that's still two percent too many right yeah right so yeah that's not fun that's not woke Nazis are not woke no they're not and this guy was straight out like I'm a white supremacist this is what my platform is I'm glad that he obviously did not get more than 2% but 2% for us is still like I don't know I'll say 500 people that means 500 people in my city were like yes you know what i mean and and to me that's 500 too many yeah you're either pro nazi or you don't care enough to know yeah i feel like in any shape or form if you and it's the apathy it's the apathy of oh well it doesn't affect me I think that's a very good pyramid on the last level of white supremacy where you kind of just sit, you know, and it's not that you have to go out and protest, but you can support that community by doing many different things. And not everyone's going to be like Darren, who's a protester and been protesting since the ripe old age of six. Some people will just do it by buying from businesses. buying from businesses is one of the most simplest ways you can honestly do shit it literally is like the simplest way like i we buy from indigenous businesses my friends and i and that doesn't make what our ancestors did okay like let's make this very clear it doesn't fix it but at least we're financially supporting a group that maybe doesn't have the same level of support that other groups do and we're contributing to their business that's something better than being like oh well you know something is always more than nothing you know at canada day if we drummed in our red and white and made red and white cookies and set off fireworks and talked about how great fucking canada was fine we're not hurting anybody but we're not addressing the fact that we have hundreds of fucking bodies under residential schools. Hundreds of fucking bodies. More found all the time. That were ripped from their families because we came here and we colonized them. So, you know, it doesn't fix it, but it at least shows I want to support you. I want to share resources with you that you should have always had in the first place that my people stole from you. right for fuck's sakes people just at least spend money on businesses or donate minimum minimum every group needs a bard and uh and uh and a warrior and uh an archer and a mage and there's yeah there's a job and every what were those called quest parties or yeah you're right oh wow scott's listening to this right now he's like quest parties i got it my co-worker my colleague from friday nightmares um but yeah so not all this can be a darren not all of us can be as informed as darren is and as politically active as darren is it's true though darren it's true but we can all do something for fuck's sakes do something do something and i still need to do more i don't know well you do a lot but i've got to become super sand woke i can't wait for us to write the new 2020 2022 world combat it's gonna be all the white characters die in the first five minutes sonya sorry everyone's dead it's gonna be a movie about all the other ones we'll have reptile it'll be like oh deep reptile not even human sorry okay no it's perfect i think we we ended i think we finished i think was that the end i don't know i think that's the end watch for darren and i's new mortal combat coming out we're gonna make everybody mad coming out not from ben shapiro's movie company i'm sure no definitely not definitely not but it's been a pleasure thanks for having me darren always great times always always a pleasure do you want to you i mean you you promoted quite a few cool things do you want to prevent uh promote any of the cool things that you have done um sure i think the biggest one because we're on legion we are proud members of the legion podcast network darren and i uh you can find me on the friday nightmares podcast along with mr smoke show crawford um we're a horror movie podcast we are very much i would say left-leaning and we are we try to use inclusive language actually scott corrected me on the last episode of a term i used that was outdated which i greatly appreciated and you know what darren i didn't get upset about it i thanked him for correcting me and i moved on with my life it's amazing um so if you talk about 2022 releases we talk about cool stuff that we do and then we usually talk about a couple of movies right now we're doing horror around the world and that's been a really interesting experience and we do Out of the Dark we did a Halloween 5 or Halloween End spoiler that I'm sure spoiler we did not hate the movie which a lot of people did so if you want to hear us talk about how people need to just relax a little bit that it's just a film you can hear that too and that is also under the kill the cast feed on the legion podcast network along with all our great legion podcast friends that are there well it's always fun talking with you however we do it verbally i think we get a little bit more goofy we do we do uh but that's that's sarcastic yes very sarcastic about you know darren now has to go tell his wife to stop reading and he has to go do some laundry i'm gonna ban her books i'm gonna go ban all of her books all of her books except for good housekeeping that's the only one right i'm gonna make her learn how to cook yes the joy of cooking that she gave me is for her now i'm gonna go unpack my son's lunch and make her do it that's right and she's gonna rub my feet tonight instead of yeah finally you have the right stuff Darren honestly go watch that YouTube promo video everyone who's listening right now no matter what political site you are on watch this video it is the funniest shit sometimes if I'm having a bad day I go to the website and I watch the video again because it's so funny it's so funny what's a red flag? definitely a democrat definitely a democrat oh for sure a democrat they don't know how to treat a woman like people actually say that like that is something anyone would actually say well obviously not there's no women on the sites have fun with your sausage party incels oh man oh too funny anyway thanks again darren this is a blast it was a blast and that's how you gotta deal with dumb shit like anti-wokeness he did what we all must learn to do you and you and you and cover