The Psychosemantic Podcast EP 131: Brawndo's Got What Plants Crave

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Coming to you live, an electrified from

Studio A high atop the escarpments of Whitetail Peak.

So what's on your mind tonight?

I mean, you know, I'm going to tell you what's on mine. Let's get started.

Let's, let's bring that up as we are talking right

now. We are. Hopefully there will be a quick turnaround on

this, and I want to get it out before the Inauguration

Day. But we are one week away from

the rerun that 49%

of the country wanted. There are 49% of the voting country

wanted. Not a massive mandate,

not a massive landslide, a bit of

an electoral college landslide. But we've got our beef.

Well, at least I've got my beef with the Electoral College.

Not to put words in your mouth, but yeah, the whole,

everything, I, I was surprised that people found

a way to blame the fires

on alleged diversity hires,

which in, in some ways it's,

you know, like the, the railing people had against

affirmative action in the 90s where they just assumed that if somebody went out

of their way to consider people from a broader spectrum of

backgrounds, that automatically that took away any credentials that they had

before. And, you know, I, I do want to say that I personally

have not seen the resumes of the people in

charge of things, so I can't say whether or not that

they were more or less qualified than other people that got

hired, but it is total bullshit to say that they only got hired

because they were black or gay or something

like that. Yeah. It also might not be the

best, most opportune and sensitive time to even

start throwing political blame around for something like

these wildfires. You know, I do have one

friend that's come. I've got plenty of conservative friends, as you know, but I

got one friend that's so off the rails that he went way out of his

way to message me this morning and say, hey,

look at this, they caught an illegal immigrant walking around a

neighborhood with a blowtorch. So he must have started the

first of the fires. And apparently there was some unhinged

dude. It looks to be true. I've done some research on it. But yeah,

there was some unhinged dude that was going around lighting like trash in

people's yards. Dude, come on. We're over,

what, over a week into the fires here. So do you really

think there was a unified front of illegal immigrants that were

out there methodically plotting and planning all the fires

from the beginning? And of Know, Mel Gibson has his conspiracy

theories that it's a great displacement.

Right. That the. The lib. The lib govern Governor

of California is trying to do so they can free up land now.

Why? I wouldn't know. Because you would think it is more like, you know,

the quote unquote quasi neo conservatives that

would want to do that and displace people that don't have

the means that others have. And my writer,

the people I see. Benefiting most from these LA fires

are landlords because rent on houses and

apartments has gone up 30% in some places.

You know, a lot of wildfires don't really have

an electoral history. They don't have a voting block

or a supporter block. They destroy everyone's houses. They are.

You know, fires are kind of hard to control. And that would also.

Super genius. Marjorie Taylor Greene is

saying that the government needs to just use their weather control powers

to make it rain because they know how to do

it. Is she. Is she really saying that now? Well,

she said something like people need to ask Governor

Newsom or why isn't the government doing this? But she said

they need to do the cloud seeding.

They know how to do it. She specifically brought up cloud seeding.

S E E D I N G not seating and which

I don't know a whole lot about, but it is a thing that you can

do. If there are clouds present, you can

encourage them to go over the

edge to rain. But the clouds have to exist. Nobody can create the

clouds. They have to be there.

She's even getting fact check on Twitter, which that's hard

to do, but. Yeah, well, apparently Facebook

is going to be a lot harder to fact check too. I was.

You've seen the memes, right? Like. Oh yeah. You know,

I'm not really surprised that as soon was.

Because they've got what the incoming

administration has threatened to, you know,

go after them. So he doesn't care. He's going

to give him a bunch of. They what? Jeff Bezos,

Mark Zuckerberg, all these other people are donating to

the inauguration fund. Sure they are. Yeah. A lot of companies

that. That didn't the first time around. Yeah, for sure. I've been

messing around with Blue sky, seeing what that's about.

But that was started by the guy that started Twitter.

But it's all his fucking fault for selling it to Musk in

the first place. Yeah, well, that's true,

you know, to make it. What. What did Musk envision it as?

The free speech town hall alternative or

something? Yeah, it's where you

where a Nazi can be a Nazi. Yeah. So Wikipedia,

things like Wikipedia are a little bit different, right? Like you.

Because Wikipedia, my understanding is that when you go on to

read a Wikipedia article and like I'm over here in,

you know, Florida reading the article and somebody

in Washington state is reading the exact same article.

Whereas from what I understand, when you go into things like,

you know, that are a little bit more, you know, business model that, that don't

rely so much on, you know, people giving like

Wikipedia and things like that do, and these are more like corporate sponsored

big advertising. And my understanding is that

those types of programs because they do cater more to

the commercial crowd and the desire for more,

more money and more things and, and more wealth and more,

you know, power that they tailor the messages,

of course, right. These, these algorithms.

So these things like Wikipedia are kind of starting to disappear.

Like there's, there's a pretty good UK based

news source that I like to read, the Guardian. They also don't

take a whole lot of outside advertising and they rely more on

people donating. So I tend to believe those news

sources a little bit more than the ones that algorithmically

tune precisely what they think I want to see. And it just

seems kind of arbitrary. But at the bottom, at the end of the

day, I think it's like all after your money, right? All after your cash.

Can these things be used? This is one thing we're going to have to worry

about, right? With what's coming in now and with Elon, you know,

being at the right ear of, of the big of of the man himself.

In fact, some ask who's really running things at this point, right?

And I guess that's gonna, that's gonna play out. We're also gonna see when

these two egos that are this big clash, how long can

this bromance last, right? Like it's gotta be doomed from the start.

But yeah, my, my worry is let's, let's hope that they just keep

trying to get our money and don't start trying to like you know,

get our, our souls right and our

literally free speech and our ability to, you know,

disagree and put things out there openly like you and I from

time to time that might be picked up later and maybe trigger a tax

audit or something like that. That's the fear I've got.

Okay, that's a good segue into.

Welcome back everybody. We haven't put

out an episode since before the American presidential

election. I really kind

of thought that we would be here talking about the

up Things that President Harris was doing. But we

are here under the veil.

If you're. If it's your first time listening to the show, I don't know

how much we're going to talk about the movie that is in the title of

the episode. Idiocracy could

have been done a thousand times on the show.

Here we are getting ready for the rerun,

like I said, the rerun that only 49 of

the voters wanted. But we got the.

The 2006 Mike Judge dystopian

dark comedy starring Luke Wilson,

Maya Randolph, Dax Shepard, Terry Crews,

Justin Long. I think it

was directed by Mike Judge, not just written by.

If, if you haven't seen it, what are you doing listening to the episode?

Thinking. We're going to talk in detail about the movie. If you have seen it,

you know why we're talking about it. It's.

It's commentary about the dumbing down of America, the dumbing

down of voters and the totally ludicrous

idea of somebody from the wrestling world becoming

president and the stupidest

people running all of the shows and corporations pretending.

What is it like? Welcome to Blah blah, I love you. Welcome to Blah blah,

I love you. Corporations pretending to care about you. The monetization

of health care. The.

Although I will say what. What was the

full name of Terry Crews's character?

President Camacho. President Dwayne Elizondo.

Mountain Dew. Herbert Camacho. There you go.

Was wise enough to know that he wasn't the smartest person

and he tried to find the smartest person to fix the problems.

That's not going to be what happens. As we've already been talking

about. Doesn't look that way, does it?

So this is about a totally unrealistic future

where the stupidest people are in charge of

everything and intelligence is mocked

and ridiculed. Here we

are totally not looking at anything like that.

And like we were just talking about with wildfires

and we were talking about the

furthering purchase of government power,

which. Welcome to our therapy session. Lance,

as you all know from the Horror Returns, is back.

He's one of the few people soldiering through that. We'll keep talking

about this with me. You're. You're one of the

champions. And I understand a lot of people don't have the

bandwidth to. Yeah, yeah.

Michael. Michael Moore, man, he made some bold predictions that

was toast and that didn't come to pass. And I'm.

I'm so disappointed. Dude. The only, the only episode of his

show that, that we've heard since the election has Just been

one hour of show tunes.

Yeah. And he said, he said, is it really that bad? And he said,

nothing a few show tunes won't cure. And that was the title of his episode.

And I literally kept hitting the fast forward button because I was

waiting for him to start talking and nope, nothing but show tunes.

Start to finish. That's all he had to say. And he hasn't done an episode

since, so. Yeah, man, there's a lot of people that are really, really hurting,

really licking their wounds. I know, right? I know. Right after

the election, man, it was, it was a tough time for a lot of people.

You know, it still is, but now we're coming into the

real deal. So let's, let's see what really happens here.

You know, full, full disclosure,

man, Biden let me down so much and I've talked to

you about this and man, it all started out with

a little promise when he, when he took off that, you know, hey, I know

I'm, I'm not really, I'm not really a young man.

I, I just kind of want to get the country back over to the,

to, to the good guys side again. Right. You can trust me. I'll get

it back to the good guys side and give me four years and

I'll step down and I'll put all of my, all of my

weight and all of my political capital behind another

young next generation type leader. Right.

Well, that didn't happen. And then of course, you had the little promise

that this. Yeah. Made me sick to my stomach. And I'm not going to take

that excuse, you know, that's your child. Anybody would do that for their child.

You can't come right out and say in no uncertain terms,

I am absolutely, positively not going to, not going

to, you know, give my son a pass, you know, because I trust

the justice system. I believe in the justice system. I, I don't

think it's corrupt. I believe everything. And so I'm not going to pardon him.

I'm going to leave at the mercies of the justice system. And then what do

you know, man, he turned around and did that to us too. So,

you know, and he's kept the bank, the First national bank of Israel,

Israel open and in robust business the whole

time, no questions asked. You know, nobody called to the

carpet over any of this stuff. And it's made me sick,

man, so I had to get that off my chest first. I really did.

No, we could, we could go. We could. I actually,

I've got a documentary I think we should

do sometime if you've got the strength for. I haven't

watched it yet, but it just came out the

last couple months about a

lot of the Israel, Palestine stuff. It's called Israelism and

it was made by Jewish filmmakers. But about the

stuff about especially, I would imagine it's going

to delve into American politicians and

the things like very recently, I don't know if

you saw that all the Republicans, except for 1

and 40 something Democrats in the House voted to

sanction the International Criminal Court if it

ever tries to hold anybody from the Israeli government or

military responsible for war crimes.

Wow, that's just like a free pass. It hasn't

gone to the Senate yet and the House is generally

nuttier that. But I

mean if you go through the APAC tracker shows

you all the donations that different politicians

have got and how much like I think the

Israeli government spent over $20 million in donations. If you

put that together among all the politicians that voted for

that bill, but they got like what, 60 something million

the government more recently. So it's like with Musk,

he spent $40 billion to buy Twitter,

but since the election he

has earned over $100 billion.

Sounds like a good, sound, good, sound investment. Yeah.

Biden and I mean it got

talked about a decent amount when Jimmy Carter died because he

had spoken out about against the American

funding of the genocide in Palestine,

but he didn't really do anything to stop it when he was in power.

Yeah, it's got to be, got to be tough to do, man. There's got to

be a lot of, a lot of political resistance. Right. Like more than we

can even imagine. And I got nothing against

Israel being able to have its own, its own country and its own

freedom. And I mean those actions were obviously despicable,

you know, for that group to do that. But you know,

they say an eye for an eye and all that. That's very Old Testament.

And hey, you know, we are talking, you know, the Jewish religion,

again, nothing against the Jewish religion at all. We're talking about the government.

We're talking about the government. And I think that I

would say that the vast majority of Israelis are

not huge fans of Netanyahu. From things that I'm reading

and things that I'm hearing from people both inside

and outside of the country. So, you know, it's not like this

dude is representative of the common man

and woman who lives in that, in that area.

There is a decent amount of resistance all over.

Just like I've been talking about this a lot with my,

my Kid because, you know, he hears snippets of us talking about global

issues. We try to be careful to not go too hardcore because he's

9. But we also don't want to say you're too young

to learn about the world. World. So he, and you

know, a lot of things were, he's been reading a lot about World War

II lately. And he was like, well, are we still enemies

with Germany? He was like, no, you know, this is

how things go. And you know, the German government has made

a lot of efforts to not let that sort of thing happen again.

And then he's like, well, who is the American government fighting

with the most now? They're like, well, largely the

proxy war against Russia and things like

that. And he's like, oh, so all Russia was like, nope, not all Russians.

There's a lot of people, citizens in Russia

that oppose it. They're getting put in prison or falling out of windows

and other things like that.

And so it's, it's been interesting to try to,

you know, they say like, explain it to me like I'm five, but it's,

explain it to someone like they're nine. And it's.

But yeah, like you were saying, there's a lot of people in Israel,

there's a lot of rabbis, there's a lot of religious leaders around the

world that oppose, of course, the mass killing. And you know,

we're talking about the, the thing that you'll hear a lot

is, you know, Israel has a right to defend itself.

And my position on that is they are an invading and occupying force.

And so everything against their military and everything against

their government is an act of resistance. It's not necessarily

an attack. I am not big on, I am not a fan of

killing civilians. But if right

now it is extremely loud, it's like the kid throwing a rock at a

tank and getting killed. And I

think that these casualty numbers are way higher than they're

actually stated. But even in the generally kind

of low ball thing, as of last week in,

in Israel, the casualties are

45, 936 Palestinian casualties

and 1706 Israeli.

So I mean there, there are just towns turned

to rubble. There's over a hundred, almost 200 journalists

been that have been killed by the occupying force.

People like aid workers from

the United Nations Relief and Works Agency for Palestinian

refugees. There's like so many workers,

people trying to deliver food. Yeah, so there's

a, there's a Michelin star chef that has like, his big

charity is to go to these places. That. That need to be

fed and feed him. And I know that a convoy of his trucks

was bombed. It's pretty indiscriminate, it seems

like unfettered. There we go.

So Biden, I guess we're bringing it a little bit back towards

the idiocracy and the people in power and what they

do with those powers. And a lot of people think that Netanyahu,

he is trying to prolong the war

or the conflict to

stay in power and to avoid prosecution. And, I mean, there's already numerous

countries that have petitioned through the ICC to

have him tried for war crimes. Biden has always been

like this. When he was in the Senate,

and then as a president,

everything that. Everything that the Israeli

military has done, he supports. Even if

he doesn't support it, he's fine with it. Secretary Blinken

is fine with it. Always saying, you know, like, with our police,

they're like, well, we're letting Israel investigate itself and will tell

us if they've done anything wrong. You know,

they'll kill a really bad idea. Yeah. Kill a bunch of

doctors. And all of a sudden, oh, well, they were secretly spies or,

you know, it's. Yeah. You don't. You don't let the police investigate

themselves. And they're refusing to let UN or NATO

investigators go in the children's hospital.

That was housing terrorists underneath, deep in the catacombs.

Right. You know, as they all do.

First it was an accident, then it was on purpose. Like,

actually, it was on purpose. We just didn't want to tell you because we thought

that you'd be okay with it if we said it was an accident. Going back

to Biden letting everybody down in

his time. You know, all the build up to the election was,

fascism's gonna take over all this stuff.

And then after they lost, they all got

chummy together. What? They gave an award to Liz

Cheney. I saw just today.

One week left. So what's really important is

they're going to rename a bridge after George W. Bush officially

made the American bird the bald

eagle. For some reason, that had to be done. I thought that

was done hundreds of years ago for some reason. I guess

not officially. And now it's official.

So important that safe, that safeguard will protect us

now that we have an official national bird. So what

about this. What about this incoming administration? I.

I don't see. I'm trying to figure out what's going on here.

I call all these. These cabinet members that.

That Trump's already talking about appointing and fast tracking through

and trying to get the permission to not have to have Congress vote on it

and all that. Try to get. You could probably tell me more about that,

but I call it the Cabinet of Cur Curiosities.

You said something about a pro wrestler earlier. You said,

surely no one in pro wrestling would actually be involved in

politics. Well, but yet the, the Education secretary,

right? I mean, you want to start there? I mean, you, you tell me,

how do we unpack this? Like, how much is real? How much is

smoke screen? How much is. Let me see if I can throw this crazy

name up there to get away with somebody not quite as crazy.

What are you thinking, man? What's going on here? I think

everybody that's been named first is his first picks. Although he is

such a TV president that it's probably just the most recent

person he saw talking about it. Now, Linda McMahon, who you

alluded to as his nominee for Education Secretary.

She was in his cabinet last time. She was

the Secretary of Small Businesses, which everybody affiliates

the WWF with a small business or wwe.

Well, she's it. Correct me if I'm wrong, but is she or is

she not a billionaire? Oh, she's very much a billionaire. She's got all

of that McMahon money. So. Yeah. And she

doesn't have an education background. It's, it's, it's the same. It's the

same thing all over again. I mean, Robert F. Kennedy for

Health and Human Services, he's never worked in the medical field before.

Okay, okay, okay, real quick. I was telling you this the other day. I was

reading some of his positions, if I can truly believe them.

And, and I like some of what he says, because he is talking

about. He's. He's talking about the way

that here in America we put all these dyes and chemicals like

in the food that they don't put in other countries. And he, he, he at

least says he's against that. See, I can get behind that, but.

He'S not going to do anything about that. Go ahead.

Sorry. That is a problem. That is a problem. Now, I'm just curious if you

think there's anything redeeming about that. I mean, the vaccine stuff.

I'd like to know more about that. I mean, I know he's a big

vaccine skeptic, but is it to the point where he says we should do away

with a polio vaccine? Is that he has. Is that truly

something he believes? In the past, he has suggested getting rid of the polio vaccine,

COVID vaccine. Not sure all which other ones,

but I mean, even before him taking any

sort of control at Health and Human Services, which is, I think.

And that, that would be in charge of the fda, the cdc.

Right, right, sure, that would make sense. Right.

But the, I mean the anti vaxxer movement is huge.

Like the, the,

the level of children getting vaccinated against polio,

measles, the mmr like measles, mulch, rubella and

stuff like that is low enough that we are starting to see

cases of measles and mumps and stuff like,

you know, they always talk about herd immunity. Enough people in

the herd have to be immune for that to work. Sure. He was

talking about how I want. To know because I, I kind of like the guy

a little, I have to admit. I, I kind of like, or I like some,

some talking points. So I need to be known, I need to

know if I'm being fed line of here. Well, it depends.

I mean a broken clock can be right twice a

day. So yeah, our food has additives

and preservatives and in it that other countries don't have

that does contribute to disease and

you know, more obesity and things like that. Because people in other countries can

eat the same sort of food. But it is better however

that he'll never do anything about that. I don't

know if he would if he was the totally in charge. His main thing

for the longest time has been vaccines are bad. Get rid of vaccines.

People shouldn't have to get vaccinated to go to school and stuff

like that. And you saw

how hardcore they went after Michelle Obama

when she was trying to get preservatives and additives out of

food and have less processed food be around.

She was, oh, sure, sure. Unless corn

and everything. Because America has to grow so much

corn and we're subsidized, our farmers are subsidized. So much

money for growing way more corn than we could ever possibly

use. So it's like now we have to find new uses for corn.

So we got to keep American farmers subsidies up. We got

to keep America's farming right? So. Oh,

it can make a really good sweetener. So then they started putting corn syrup

and literally everything and they're like, ah, we can add

it to fuel, make the fuel go further. It doesn't necessarily

burn very clean, you know, and it burns really, really fast because it gets

really hot. But we can add corn to fuel, you know,

and before you know it, hey, we can make, we can make clothing

out of, out of corn, processed corn.

So we got something with all the. Corn children of the corn

so yeah, he, he talks about ultra processed food,

but he has never really done anything. He comes from anti

vaccination. Lot more, A lot more involved in, in that. As far as

action. Yes. Yeah, a lot, a lot more action in that.

A lot of work towards that. A lot more of his funding comes from

that. A lot more of his donations and things.

Today or yesterday. He was talking about how great

it was for him to be on heroin when he was in school.

His grade shot up through the roof when he got on a heroin. It helped

him focus. But vaccines are bad.

He used, he used

to say that you got AIDS if you

were gay and did drugs. That's the only way you could do it.

And in, in all, in all fairness, I lived through the 80s and

early 90s and a lot of people thought that I, I had a lot of

friends that wouldn't sit on a toilet seat. Right. Without wiping

it for fear of catching the dreaded aids. Right.

But he would go so far as to claim that he had,

you know, scientific studies that proved it and things like

that. That's dangerous. Not just, not just.

I don't know. And I'm afraid it's. I know about it.

I should. Yeah. Not that, not the scientific approach,

in other words. Yeah, not, not the scientific approach. Approach. The, the cabinet

people. So he is,

yeah, the nominee for Health

and Human Services after Matt Gates

was set aside because they couldn't

block his, you know, sex crimes investigation from

coming out. Marco Rio is the new nominee.

Okay, so Rubio's from, from my new stamping

grounds. Right. Isn't he from Florida? Yes, he is.

Okay. Florida. He used to hate Trump.

Trump used to call him Little. That's right. I do remember

that. I do remember that. Let's see, Pete has.

Guess I think he was a Fox News guy. He was

in the military. He's nominated for defense. Indeed he was.

Indeed he was. Yeah. So how much military leadership has

he had to speak of? Like his. Is he a four star general

or something like that or what? No, I forget what rank he

had. But there's another person that I think

got nominated for Veterans affairs who

has long complained that veterans get too many benefits.

That's man, if you're not going to take care of your veterans

with as big a defense budget as we have, what are you

going to do? Who are you going to take care of? Right. That's usually the

one that everybody in the government will go for is like, oh, veterans, veterans.

But as you saw with a lot of the, I mean, John Stewart's

at Congress all the time trying to get people

their health care and, you know, veterans that were poisoned in the Iraq

invasion. Sure.

Let's see who else. Pam Bondi is nominated.

Oh, yeah, that's right. Matt Gaetz was going to be nominated

to be attorney general. That's right.

Attorney general. Yeah. For that job.

The entire, the entire legal system. And he's allegedly

going around and having these drug fuel sex parties. Right. Not necessarily

always with people of, of the age of consent.

Yep. Raping kids and doing drugs.

He did find a doctor for the FDA.

Dr. Marty McCary.

Marty McFly. Yeah, almost.

They are professor at John Hopkins University,

author, surgeon, trained cancer specialist.

He, although he was very against masking

and children getting the COVID vaccine.

And it's hard because Trump goes back and forth between claiming

all of the credit for fighting against Covid and I

don't have anything to do with that. The person

I was talking about did. How soon do we forget Operation Warp

Speed? Right, right. It was me that got all those vaccines

out that quickly. I mean, come on,

pick a side, dude. Well, that's, that's the,

the, the brilliance of the cult leaders. You know,

he says everything. So it was before fact checking

went away online. You said you could claim that he

said something and you get fact checked that he actually said something else. But he

said both things. The person I

was trying to come up with that had something to do with

veterans has been nominated to run Veterans Affairs.

Former Georgia congressman Doug Collins,

who was in Congress for eight years,

he's very much been Team Trump and

he was a veteran of the Iraq war

and a chaplain. He ran for Senate

but did not win. Well, we've got Christy Gnome.

They want her in charge of Homeland Security. She would not deploy

the national, the state's National Guard to take care of the flooding.

Probably because it was a liberal hoax. But she did send

a bunch of soldiers to protect.

She's from South Dakota, I think. Yeah, she's a South Dakota governor. Sounds.

Yep, that sounds right. So it was really important to her state

to guard the Mexican border.

Okay. She sent a lot of National Guard to.

But no flood relief. No flood relief.

Another Fox News host, Fox Business host

Sha Duffy to be the transportation secretary take over Pete Buddha

Jed's job.

He. Yeah, there's not a whole lot about him.

Let's see, an oil, another oil exec

to run to be energy secretary. Was this the,

the guy that owned the fracking company? Yep,

yep, yep. Oh, God.

Says climate activists are alarmists and

to push towards renewable energy Sources are

quote, Soviet style communism.

Wow. You've got to be kidding. That might be the worst pick

yet, man. Last year, run down. Oh, yeah.

I wanted to make sure I looked up that because I know that's a big

issue. Big issue for all of us. But you and I have had so many

conversations about that. Yeah. Even last year, for some

reason he posted a video on LinkedIn. I didn't know people still use LinkedIn.

But saying there is no climate crisis

and we're not in the midst of an energy transition.

So why do we want Greenland so badly with all those precious metals

that now that we're melting all the ice around it, we can actually get to

the precious metals and make clean energy batteries and

storage batteries. Because the ice is melted, because we need

the clean energy. Because we have to get this,

you know, put, obviously, look, man,

it's the future. Battery storage is definitely going to

be the future. There's no way that we're going to keep using fossil

fuels forever. So I'm like, does Trump really know that? Is it the crazy

as a fox syndrome and that's why he wants this. But there is,

there is a terrible sick irony. Right. And the fact that the,

it's so much easier to get to and mine those metals now that

so much of the polar ice caps have melted away there. It's like,

it's really bizarre. It's like, what do they call it,

the, the snake eating its own tail or something like that. If I've

got the analogy correct, I've. Definitely seen the

cartoon of it. Treasury Secretary is a Wall

street exec. Of course. Of course.

Well, but they used to work for George Soros. I'm not sure how that's gonna

get through. Say, okay, they all hate anybody that had

anything to do with George Soros. That's usually like tossed out

like a slur, like woke. Soros affiliated,

that all encompassing bugaboo word right there. Right.

Kind of like pizza gate. Yep. Oh,

a former NFL player to run the house, to run

Housing and Urban Development. There's Camacho.

Yeah, I, I note, I looked

in that a little bit because, you know, my wife's a social worker that deals

in housing. Okay,

better find out how that's going to go. And this person,

maybe, maybe, maybe, maybe. Trump would say, see, we didn't put the

letter C on the applications. Here's our proof. I don't know.

But like with the person running Veterans affairs, this person

has advocated against helping people find housing,

which is not a good I, not a good vocation.

For someone in charge of housing. Helping people find housing.

Sure. Gotcha. You know,

but it's all, it's all kind of like

that. Oh, non cabinet positions.

There's, you know, Ohio's own Vivek Ramaswamy

and not Ohio's own Elon Musk.

Two people. Not America's own. By the way,

I'll add two people running a

redundant. The Doge. Whatever thing.

What department on Government Efficiency,

which the whole

mission statement of that department that doesn't exist

but will exist by some sort of, you know,

presidential decree is to do something

that government agencies already do,

but it'll cost more money and they need two people to

do it. Two people to run it to find more.

More efficiency. Well, and I was reading today

they're already walking on a lot of promises like,

well, maybe we can't quite find that

much money to cut out of it, but you know, we'll do what we can.

Do what we can. Our heart's in the right place. Right. I wonder

if that has anything to do with the government contracts that one of those two

people has so much of, particularly having to do with space

exploration. Military, you know,

maybe. Maybe. Could be. Could be. You know

what? Probable CIA agent Tulsi Gabbard

is nominated to be Director of National Intelligence.

Is that the one that said that Russia wasn't so bad after all?

Maybe. Or that we were too aggressive to Russia or something like that?

Yeah, she's very much, she's, she's only for

using the military to kill dark skinned people.

That, that's, that's. That's when she's okay with government.

Seems to be, it seems to be a pattern. Seems to be a pattern.

And you know, she got her. So she's one of those Democrats

that became conservative because of too much wokeness or whatever.

But she started out working for an anti LGBTQ

non profit. She used to work for her dad at one,

so it's kind of the family business. Well, Trump was

a registered Democrat for many, many years.

You know Kennedy, right? Kennedy RFK

Jr yeah, the same way. So Kristen

Simmons Cinema. What John Fetterman

seems like he's going that way.

Which is funny because the Democratic Party

at large is like Republicans in

the 80s,

you know, in general. There's a couple things here and there. But I

mean that. Yeah,

the. I don't know. That's.

Yeah. No, you called it, man. It, it is. I mean there's

like, there's almost no way to. There wouldn't be

any way to tell the two apart. Except that one. One group is,

well, well, now all of a sudden, the conservatives say they're the ones that are

the punk rockers, right? They're the anti establishment. They're.

Let's burn everything down and let's do it by starting with what,

putting nine millionaire, nine billionaires in

a cabinet? Yeah, seriously. Is that being punk

rock? Is that going anti establishment? They do a

damn good job of marketing, dude. I can see how this happened.

Looking back at it, you know, the marketing was amazing. You've got all these.

These bro podcasters that are all jumping on board and said,

hey, man, let's get our free speech back,

man. Those woke people don't let us say the N word anymore. And I

want to say it, you know, I'm not.

I know it is kind of humorous, but it's kind of. It's kind of sad,

man. I mean, that's what happened here. It was the world's big.

You got to hand it to the guy, man. He's a snake oil salesman.

He really is. But let's just hope that all the bankruptcies

that this dude has gone through don't come back. And let's hope bankruptcy

doesn't catch up with us as a country, man, because we can lose

our standing really, really quickly if we start welching on,

you know, things that we owe other people, you know, and that's,

that's, that's not, that's not a happy thought, Darren. That's not a happy

thought. He loves to leave people

holding the bill, which is kind of, you know,

how things ended four years ago. I can't imagine now when,

as far as we know, he isn't

going to be running again. So. Yeah, and I think whatever

is still here in four years, I think a lot of

it'll be chiseled away. I think a lot of there's going to be even more

wealth to disparity if people have their way. But I,

I don't know, like, I have to. I keep thinking that

enough bad is going to happen

that there will be a swing in the opposite way,

but I get less and less confident in how much I believe that

every time it happens. Yeah,

yeah, yeah. Unfortunately, a lot of it has to do with marketing,

but at some point, man, people have to see what's going on.

You know, I was telling one of my, one of my super neocon friends,

I was saying, look, and you, you guys better be careful. You swing

too far that way, you're going to have AOC in four years. Now, do you

want that? He didn't answer me. Usually he has a quick retort

for me, but that time he just kind of went quiet, changed the subject.

So it can happen. It can happen.

I don't want things to be swung too far one way or the other.

But the problem is in this country, I don't think you're ever

going to see the things that we probably should be doing to take

care of our people. Like you're not going to see a true non,

not for profit medical system. How is it, Darren,

that we have not for profit churches wherever

the good reverends have multimillion dollar homes, and yet all

of our medicine, all of our insurance, all of, well, not all of it,

but most of our higher education is all for profit,

you know, and endowments, of course, which. That could be a whole other,

a whole other talk and topic on it on its own.

But like, how is it that those things we don't, how do

we not see that those kind of things that benefit humankind

and like, take care of the people in our own country should be not

for profit? Possibly they should be, you know, in a

way that everybody can benefit and not have to like, stress and battle

and fight and spend hours, and doctors having to

spend hours on the phone with insurance companies, you know, trying to get

the coverage these people have been paying month in and month out for.

How is it that we can do that? And yet we have, quote, unquote,

not for profit churches that are not beholden

to the tax laws. Can you explain that?

Well, it's because,

I mean, it's because of the, the money in government. It's because we don't

have publicly funded elections. The fecklessness of the Democratic

Party as a whole since they ended

up dwiddling, whittling things down to

basically having two functional political parties in America,

it's in their mutual benefit to keep the other parties from power.

There's so much resistance against ranked choice voting.

There's so much resistance

against getting money out of politics. There's.

The Supreme Court has been getting angled right,

really. I mean, fuck, Trump has

stacked the court and he's going to keep stacking the court. It's going to get

worse. Although, who knows,

maybe they'll all die in four years,

but can't count on that because they also have one of the

few publicly funded health care systems that people

have access to in America are people

in Congress, people in the Supreme Court, things like

that. They don't even have a code of ethics that they have

to follow.

And yeah, not to go Back to harping against all

the money that is going to other places that everybody's fine with. We're paying

for government funded health care. It's just for

our government and for a select few.

Yeah. And for Israeli citizens, you know,

they have publicly funded health care. Why can't

we have. You know, it's an angling with

education wise.

The less informed people are, the more likely they are to support

regressive or conservative

called stances. But also the

less informed people are, the more isolated they

feel in the thing. But when you just ask about

government, you know, public health care or free

college that is supported by so many people,

60, 80%, all the other things like that,

like if there was actual representative

government, these policies would exist.

But since the rope ladder people, the people

in the treehouse pulled up the rope ladder and burned the bridge

and there, there's a

big grasp on that power and that privilege

and yeah, it's gonna have to be something

drastic, a radical shift that.

Not really sure what, what would

allow that to happen other than old

age claiming that

subset of people in power and,

or people getting better at marketing like you, you talked about. Marketing is a

great way to put it. And it's about putting it for like the Republican

Party has given their loudest Internet

trolls the platform and the

space to do what they do and get. You know, they, they figured.

They figured it out. They figured it out. I've been following a news

source called Ground News and I think I shared that, that information

with you because I, I try really, really hard, man. I do

want to understand every person's position. I want

understand, you know, the other side, right? Because sometimes I might agree

with, with the quote, unquote, other side on, on certain issues and

you know, I kind of like to stay well rounded. Problem is when I start

going, you know, when I kind of start going down the rabbit hole to some

of those like super conservative sites, right? Because I like to read those articles

as well. Like there's one called the Gateway Pundit.

There's one called the Real Guardian. There's one

called Real American News. You know, these ones I'm talking about. Problem is,

dude, when I click those open and read an article,

I swear to God, I open my email and I'm bombarded with

seven or eight sales pitches. Buy this Trump wall calendar

with him floating on a bald eagle. Buy this Trump gold bar

for $100. It guaranteed to be 10 times its value in a

year. You know, it's just, dude, the marketing is out

of control and I Guess human as human beings, as people.

PT Barnum said it best, man. There's a sucker born every minute.

And I think Americans, we just kind of love playing the part of the sucker

because we want to feel like we're part of that rich subset,

right? We want to feel like we have power with our dollars,

right? So we kind of want to be sold to. I mean, I'm convinced

of it, dude. That's part of it, man. We kind of do this

to ourselves, right? We like being the sucker because it makes

us feel good. They stroke us, they give us nice pretty

advertisements. They tell, they whisper sweet things in our ears.

They tell us, hey, come here. There's a conspiracy.

Nobody else knows about this conspiracy, but I'm going to let you in on it.

Just send me $5 and I'm going to send you. Or more like 500 and

I'm going to send you my book about how to survive the coming apocalypse.

It's. It's crazy, man. And it's

out there, dude. I've been going down the rabbit holes and I see

it. It's. Oh yeah, it's.

I get that more on YouTube because I have a

right leaning libertarian friend that is always sending me stuff.

So anytime I click on anything he sends me, ah, you're hooked.

You click and the fish hook gets in your, in your throat.

And it's the, the few. So few lessons learned.

And the, you know, the, the Democratic Party at large,

like we've talked about is more interested in

the corporate donors as, you know, as things go

similarly with the Republican Party, now that they've got the vote

of all the poor people that were worried about the price of eggs, they're going

to get the Gulf of America or whatever the,

because they want to rename that. They're going to get. We've got.

Let's try to buy Greenland instead of, you know,

that healthcare plan that was supposed to, we were supposed to be told about in

2016, that never happened. Right? There's.

And, and back, back to the, the marketing, the, the show, the entertainment

of it all. You know, you talked about aoc. She was

passed over. You know, Nancy Pelosi

put all of her muscle behind. That's right. Gary Connolly

to. And he said,

got that support. And it was basically, mom says it's my

turn to play. I can't. I haven't got to. I haven't been in charge of

a committee yet. So even though he's like

what, 77 or something like that,

fighting, fighting throat cancer, he's gonna Be in

charge of the most. He's gonna at least

be the Democratic leaders. You know, they. They don't have the majority

in the House or the Senate, but he's going to be the ranking member of

the House Oversight Committee, which has the biggest mouthpiece,

which is supposed to make the bold statements, which is supposed to talk

about the. Supposed to do

the marketing for the party, supposed to display the stance they

went with him over. If that party's going to

have a future, the future of that party.

Why do they keep doing this, man? Why do they keep doing this?

That's. Is it just to line their own pockets? I. A lot

of it is. Right. A lot of it is. And try to keep

the status quo, you know, so they don't lose theirs.

Yeah. So much greed, man. So much personal ambition,

so much power grabbing. So much worried about me and myself

right now. Only the kids, the grandkids, who cares

what's going to happen next? If you want to know what's going to happen,

it's already happening, dude. Global warming is already like.

It's. It's on a scale unlike any of the models forecast.

When you look at these. These fires that are out of control, you know,

you don't. You don't get the hurricanes there that we get, but. Right.

You know, we get the tornadoes firsthand. Yeah, you get the

tornadoes. You know, I don't know how. I don't. I don't know the science.

I'm not a scientist. I. I'm just basically speculating based on

a lot of articles that. That I've read and. And scientists

that I've heard talk about this kind of stuff. And I mean, actual client,

you know, climate scientists that do this for a living, I would think they

might know a little bit more about it than the average Joe. Yeah, right.

Like President Mountain Dew. Camacho.

That's right. Knows that was his

character's name. Oh. Not sure about the

smartest person in the world might have a better idea

that you. What Brondo is what plants crave.

We're gonna get a lot of different versions of Brondo

is what plants crave. Yes, we are. Prepare to be

sold. Continue to be sold. Welcome to Carl's Jr

you&uneducated doctors shoving

the anal probe in the mouth and then vice versa.

It's gonna be interesting. I don't know if how

stressed out we're gonna be. I don't know what sort of escapism

we're gonna need. We definitely need to keep doing what

we do. We definitely need to Keep talking with people

and with each other and it's really easy to feel alone

when that's what the algorithm is trying to,

to tell you. And I've

really been thinking about since this is gonna be a rerun,

although a little bit worse, is just redoing

all the movies that we did the first four years.

Right, right. I don't know. I've, I've really kind of been

struggling with what this show should do now because you

know, like when it's been going

for eight years now,

this, right around now, you know, a lot of my earlier

background was doing, you know,

political punk rock and. Right. Educating people

at shows and writing songs about stuff and getting people registered

to vote and having conversations with younger people and having conversations

with other people about engagement, doing benefits and

anti racism action and protests and things

like that. And then, you know, when the show first started going

a lot of people also were just starting to pay attention. So it was

a little bit more of an educational outreach sort of thing.

And I feel like the people that are still paying attention are pretty

smart people. And so I don't, I, I don't know

what, what,

what would be the best use of the,

the mouthpiece, the megaphone, the soapbox that I've got. Part of it

I think is having chats like this and you know.

Yeah, I think so too. Staying connected with each other.

So. Yeah, there was definitely been a crisis

of identity the last, the last while and I was, I really don't

even always think that anybody

wants to talk about it anymore, but. Well,

there's, there's always, there's always show tunes. That's right.

When all else fails. Right. Yep. We can start doing some more show tunes.

We can. Yeah. I don't know.

That's so, I don't know why I went on that little ramble.

But it's. Yeah,

that's up. It's gonna

be up. It's gonna keep being up.

I don't think the previous or

the current administration will, you'll be able to tell much of a difference

when it comes to is or

corporate. Doesn't seem that way. Interests.

They speaking of the

seemed purpose failures of the Democratic Party,

they had a chance the other day

to secure a two year

extension on the head of the National Labor Relations Board

which like protects unionizing workers and things like

that. That's who you go to when you're like my boss is stealing my money

or not paying me for overtime or we're trying to start a union and

Starbucks is crushing it or Amazon is crushing it or

something like that. People are being arrested in the street because they're

picketing Amazon. Exactly. Are told to work

and they, the, the head

of it right now is actually pretty pro worker and has been

very bad. One of the few things that I've thought that

Biden did well was that appointment and they

had a vote where they could have secured

that person's position for two more years and

they didn't show. They forgot to have Harris come and break the tie

and then Manchin showed back up and voted,

of course, against them. There goes that.

Yeah, there goes that. So it's

like at a point you have to think they

are either both or one or

both of failing on purpose because it's better for fundraising

or too shit for the job

and need to step aside. Yeah, well, look, look on,

look on the bright side, man. Let's, let's, let's, let's go into

this, this happy thought, right? So we know this shit goes

on all the time anyway. We, we know that there's very little distinction

between the parties. Maybe Trump really is the honest one,

man. Maybe he's just getting out there and saying, putting it

front and center, saying, you know what? I'm going to show you what our government

looks like because this is really who's been running shit the whole time anyway.

So now I'm going to give him titles maybe.

That is very generous. I think that he

doesn't, he doesn't care about anyone but himself.

These people kiss his ass and they give him money and

he doesn't care what they do because it'll probably benefit him in the long run.

As soon as it doesn't benefit him, he cuts him loose and

he's against the swamp. But he, there, I don't even like calling it the

swamp. He's against the establishment, but everyone is part

of the establishment or they shouldn't. Okay,

so you're, so you're throwing back at me the Occam's Razor argument.

The. If it looks like that's what's really going on and that looks

like the straightest line, that's probably what's really going on.

But I would love to be wrong. I would love for,

wouldn't that be great for all of a sudden there to be, you know,

tax cuts for people that make under $400,000 a

year, for there to be a beautiful,

brilliant, whatever other words that he said.

Gorgeous, gorgeous. The greatest plan.

Better, better than Obamacare

that so many Trump voters still didn't know is the same thing. As the Affordable

Care act and are very sad that they're going to go after that

or that they're not going to try to slash Social Security.

They, they're already talking about shutting down pbs.

They're. Oh no man, can't do that.

Yeah. I grew up on pbs.

Yeah. So it's

gonna, I've, I, it seems like it's gonna be. What did he say when

he was getting sentenced? It's an injustice

of justice. There you go.

That sums it up rather neatly. So either.

Do you have any parting words for this?

Because I feel like we could either be done right now or we could talk

for another five hours. Yeah, we could maybe.

To be continued. You know,

I mainly just like I said, I, I wanted to, to get your,

your, your advice on. Not your advice but

yeah. Like your view of the cabinet picks. Like for example. All right,

so the one that I heard is in charge of labor. At least

she's like somewhat union friendly. Is that.

I'm trying to think who this, this one is. I'm grasping at

straws, man. Trying to think of somebody who's decent and

that. And that's kind of why I brought up some of the things, at least

the talking points that Kennedy had sounded good.

Let's see, what do we got? Secretary of Labor Lori Chavez

de Ramire. I believe that's the one.

I think that there were some positive things that I read about her.

What have I got? What do I got Right down here.

She's been in Congress,

in Congress since two years ago and she lost.

She lost re election. But she did have

a strong trade union support. However,

a lot of the people in charge of unions go

right wing and people in the unions don't.

And Ah, okay, so,

so you got. To consider what, what side of the bread is buttered

then, right? Yeah, it sort of depends on which union

she had support for. She's, she's one that I hadn't done

that much of a deep dive on. But I, I had heard a couple of

at least somewhat encouraging things like maybe

she voted on a couple of things that. Against party

lines, you know. Yes. For the workers benefit. So probably

why she lost reelection because yeah, she did

vote for, for workers rights and organized labor issues that

go against the general, the general

stance of the Republican party. She was

very enthusiastically backing the pro

act legislation that made it easier to unionize at

the federal level. What else

does she, she co sponsored a piece of legislation that would protect

public sector workers from having their Social Security benefits

docked because of government pension benefits.

Which the party has definitely opposed.

But of course she

will not really be able to flex.

She won't. It's kind of like she won't.

She's unlikely to be giving Trump any bad ideas, but he doesn't listen

to. Women anyway or,

or good ideas at all. Yeah. So,

yeah, yeah, I think the richest pick of all is,

is, is, as you said, the, the guy to head the environmental group

that, that owned a fracking company. That's,

that's a real rooster in the hen house analogy if ever I saw,

saw one. And the anti benefit or

anti Veterans affairs benefits to run the Department of

Veterans Affairs. There you go.

Topsy turvy world. The Cabinet of Curiosities, as you

say. And we're gonna have to deal with it. And you

know, you and I personally will mostly

feel the pain of seeing people we give a.

About being attacked and hurt

and things

like that. Us, you know, are gonna be attacked

later when they've run out of other people to bully.

Right now they've, they've got a lot of people to

go after in the, you know,

for a group of people that like to say that they're against identity

politics, sure do a fucking lot of identity.

Identity politics. I'll tell you what, look, everything's looking up,

dude, because Inauguration Day, as we record, is what, a week away,

A week from today and the Ukraine, Russia war

will be solved. It will be solved. Gas is going to

get cheaper. Eggs are going to get cheaper. The political

political prisoners that did no harm on January6 are all

going to be set free. Oh, yep. They're all going to be pardoned even though

they were FB by FBI antifa black

ops plants trying to make Trump look bad.

So that's very kind of him to want to pardon all the people that he

says are his enemies that are out to get him. It's very magnanimous

of someone who's generally conceived or perceived to be

quite petty and cruel.

So, yeah, that's him. He's reaching across the aisle and

pardoning all of his political enemies.

And he's very much against the weaponization of the Justice Department. So we're

going to see none of that happening. Yeah, that's right.

Finally, finally we're going to break free of that.

So, yep, it's, it's going to be great. RFK Jr.

Is going to get rid of all the processed foods. You know, it's not going

to be like last time where they deregulated all the

meat industry and all of a sudden there's Listeria breakouts and all of the

places, places that aren't getting investigated.

It's really gonna be a return to

the. The common billionaire.

Common billionaire on the street. Right. Common billionaire on the street

is finally going to have a voice in our government.

Yes. Let freedom ring. It's gonna be

just freedom and speech and eggs and

eggs and gasoline and the

end of tyranny. We're seeing the end of tyranny.

We're talking about it right now. It's a very exciting time. Very exciting.

Yeah. Yeah. Musk was quite passionate on the Joe

Rogan Show. He said, if this election isn't won by Trump, he said

it's over. It's over. It's all over

now. It's only just begun.

Well, we'll see if we can get more billionaires and submarines or,

you know, shoot them out into space. Might be all that's

left 10 years from now. Yeah. You know, they'll send

some people to, you know, be canaries in the coal mine.

On the sure. Yeah.

But then it'll just become like alien Romulus and

we'll. We'll be working

the mines. Told we can't leave yet.

Yeah, well, you, well, well, you were due to leave, but you.

You still need 300 more work credits. Yep.

You need 10. 10,000 more Trump dollars

and you can go to Musk Land and get some

ice cream. But no preservatives,

no additives, no processed foods.

It's gonna be. No. No dyes. It's. It's very.

Like I said, I'm left almost speechless thinking about how

glorious it's gonna be.

And we're gonna put lead back in our paint and

take floor out of our water. Yep. So we're gonna have no

teeth and swollen brains so

we can think more with our big swollen brains.

That's something to look forward to. I'm excited.

I know you're excited. We're almost, we're almost here in

tears how excited we are on that happy note.

Thank you for your time, Lance. Thank you, everybody that made it

to the end of this for your time.

It's gonna be interesting. Like we said,

we're gonna be so full of cholesterol

from those cheap eggs that we're going to be happy to have

that wonderful health care plan better than Obamacare

anymore. Now, until next time,

for real, don't forget to duck and cover.

He did what we all must learn to do. You and

you and you and you. Yuck.

And cover.

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